Ceremonial and Vision Quest leader, Sun Dancer, Pipe Carrier and Musician

The first thing we had to learn was respect for what we were experiencing, and putting it in a sacred context.

The oldest religion is wandering alone in the mountains.

We have the idea in the West that worship is bowing down before something, I think it’s more like celebrating and embodying.

A leader is someone who gives everything away.

The old guys in the Peyote Church used to say “You’re invited to come in, and sit down and shut up for a couple of years, and just watch, and maybe you’ll catch the flavor of it.”

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